What Is Sol Force?

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Re: What Is Sol Force?

Post by lwarmonger » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:18 am

Naja wrote:The level of control differs a lot based on your government type - the priorities of your empire's elite and the people who consent to being governed.

Sol Force was originally just an underfunded space exploration department under the Socialist consortia governments of Earth.

Then the Hivers invaded and it became an incredibly powerful Junta government under Ashilde Falke and Edward MacKenzie. Both ruled with dictatorial power.

But then with the temporary lull in the Winter Wars, Hannibal Freeborne was popularly elected instead of ascending via military coup or a "vote" of top Legators, and he's done much to move Sol Force in a more Liberationist direction.

At least that's what I remember.


I think the first statement is probably the most poignant. From how I read the matrix in the game the values and capabilities of an organizations people and elites matters a bit more to how much control the government exerts than how the man at the top is selected. I would argue it is possible for a democratically elected leader to exert far greater and more total control over a population than the most cruel despot who staged a coup to get into power... if he has the machinery to make it happen and the population accepts his authority as being legitimate. From what I've seen of how solforce (or the Zuul or any other species is written for that matter) you can interpret how much control the government exerts over its population for yourself. Solforce could be at any side of that governmental spectrum based off of how you interpret each government type and what level you are looking at solforce's actions. Overbearing military/industrial junta at the interstellar level? Liberationist at the planetary level (Since Solforces primary concern at the planetary level seems to be that the planets pay their taxes)? Communalistic for their sponsoring/founding of new colonies? Mercantilistic for the promotion of trade? However you want to look at them they could be... just depends what aspect of governance you are looking at and what criteria you are evaluating.

I will say though that Solforce does not strike me as the type of organization that would become overly concerned with something like individual liberties when it comes to anything important to it though, regardless of the government type or level of day to day control it exerts over the lives of its citizens.

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Re: What Is Sol Force?

Post by wingren013 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:58 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgamate ... ilitia#ARM

SolForce is this without the paranoid schizophrenics and less xenophobia.
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Re: What Is Sol Force?

Post by Erinys » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:32 pm

Other than being a political structure of the same species and controlling a similar region of space, Sol Force has nothing in common with the ARM.

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Re: What Is Sol Force?

Post by wingren013 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:56 pm

You mean besides the fact that SolForce exists as an entirely military organization that leaves other matters to the governments of individual worlds but has a tight pseudo-facist grip on them. Or the fact that their purpose is to neutralize all threats to humanity no matter what.
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Re: What Is Sol Force?

Post by Naja » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:17 pm

wingren013 wrote:You mean besides the fact that SolForce exists as an entirely military organization that leaves other matters to the governments of individual worlds but has a tight pseudo-facist grip on them. Or the fact that their purpose is to neutralize all threats to humanity no matter what.


In the canon SOTS2 era, SolForce is actualy much more democratic than its earlier dictatorial era under Falke/MacKenzie. It's actually borderline-libertarian under Hannibal Freeborne.

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Re: What Is Sol Force?

Post by wingren013 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:28 pm

I guess I'm still a bit stuck in the Sots1 era. Although the comparison to the ARM was more of a conceptual one than a direct one. Are the human worlds still a commonwealth? Or do they have a more centralized government?
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Re: What Is Sol Force?

Post by Mockery » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:43 pm

Regardless of how pleasant living under a military dictatorship would be, I was pretty pleased to find a setting without a Federation or Alliance or Republic representing humanity. Not that settings with those are bad, but there are enough of them that occasionally there should also be settings where we get our Stalin on. (Or dictator of choice.)

A setting where humans are neither designated good guys or bad guys, but solely in it for humanity is pretty neat.

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